Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher's Answer to "Illegal Immigration"?: "Put Up A Fence and Start Shooting Them!"

Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher, the former conservative plumber's assistant who approached then-Senator Barack Obama about his tax cut plan during his 2008 presidential campaign and current poster boy for the Tea Party and conservative movements as well as the Republican Party, was a keynote speaker at a Cincinnati, Ohio Tea Party rally, in which over 10,000 angry white Republicans showed up at the event. (Interestingly enough, Fox News talker and talk radio show host Sean Hannity was supposed to show up at the same event but his appearance was scrapped over administrative fees; nonetheless, that's neither here nor there.)

Wurzelbacher, trying to appeal to the Tea Baggers' populist senses, flies into a nonsensical rant about homosexuality and abortion. According to Free Talk Live executive producer and co-owner and partner of CAI Credit Adjustments, Inc. (formerly Sakal/CAI) Jason Osborne, Wurzelbacher brings up the subject of illegal immigration. What does he propose the "people" should do about illegal immigration?

According to both Irish Central and the Times Reporter news sites, he exclaimed:

"Illegal immigration?" he said. "Put a fence up and start shooting [them]."

Sadly and disturbingly enough, the entire crowd stood up and gave him a standing ovation. How disgusting and twisted indeed!

Even more, The Times Reporter site, in reference to Wurzelbacher, also stated:

He drew an ovation with a talk emphasizing patriotism, taking responsibility and getting involved. "We need to get behind real Americans," he said, warning the crowd not to let "a bunch of liberal pansies" take away their rights.

I suppose Wurzelbacher was truly referring to "conservative rights"?

This is a reason why the Liberty movement as a whole needs to divorce itself and disassociate itself from the Tea Party movement as much as possible and as soon as possible. Racism, intolerance, and bigotry must be rejected and condemned across the board. But, more importantly, violence against independent migrants must be denounced at all costs.

This is sheer positive proof that the Tea Baggers, including their conservative ilk, are nothing short of racists and fascism across the board. Any conservative, right-libertarian, or Tea Bagger who condones the putrid vitriol and rhetoric coming from Wurzelbacher and the applause and praise from the right-wing crowd deserves to have his or her feet held to the fire, just for simply embracing and advocating that level of trash talk and violence.

Color me both blatantly sickened and confounded.

[H/T to Jason Osborne for mentioning this on last night's Free Talk Live and my show Liberty Cap Talk Live.]

Joe 'The Plumber' Wurzelbacher Supports the Fair Tax and the Welfare State

Conservatoid nimrod Joe Wurzelbacher, the plumber and wanna-be entrepreneur from Holland, Ohio who gained fame for his opposition to President Obama's "spread-the-wealth" plan that he touted on the final leg of Election 2008, appeared on Sean Hannity's show Hannity on Fox News to not only bring support for a Tea Party rally in Atlanta, Georgia on April 15, 2009 (a.k.a. Tax Day), but to urge Americans to support the Fair Tax. He calls upon Americans to "become their own lobbyists. Actually become their own lobbyists. Don't listen to the Washington guys. Become their own lobbyists. Vote the IRS out, vote the Fair Tax in." As soon as he gave that, a huge cry of anti-Federal Income Tax protestors at the Tea Party rally could be heard, screaming, "Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax! Fair Tax!" Hannity then, in a smug fashion, says, "You know why I call it Boortz Land" (in reference to "libertarian" Atlanta talk radio show host Neal Boortz).

Of course, Hannity and Wurzelbacher switch the discussion from the Fair Tax to their disgust with the Obama administration's "downplaying" of the War on Terror by calling it "an overseas contingent operation." Hannity asks Wurzelbacher:

HANNITY: This is amazing. But they — if you have a pro-life bumper sticker on your car, if you have an "America is overtaxed" bumper sticker, if you have a pro-Second Amendment bumper sticker, they're viewing you potentially as a radical.

My question...

(BOOS)

My question is, if those are right-wing radicals, does that mean that somebody that starts their political career in Bill Ayers' house and hangs out with Jeremiah Wright for 20 years...

(CHEERS)

What does that make them?

WURZELBACHER: I'll tell you what, let me ask you one more question. Am I an extremist for saying, "in God we trust"?

HANNITY: No.

(CHEERS)

And by the way, and I said God bless America.

And by the way, we might want to steal a phrase from Jeremiah Wright.

President Obama, there's 15,000 to 20,000 people here. You know what, if I was Jeremiah Wright, I'd probably say, America's voters have come home to roost.

It doesn't help that there's a Tea Party anti-tax protestor who's holding up a sign while Wurzelbacher's speaking to Hannity that reads:

2 Steps to Save the USA: Fair Tax and Term Limits

While it sounds great in theory that term limits will "save the USA" by limiting the length of time served by a congressional Republican or Democrat in office, it will not accomplish that any more than slapping a carbon tax on CO2 levels will save the Earth from Global Warming. Term limits will not stop the corruption in the Congress and the Senate, considering new blood replacing the term-limited old blood can be just as corrupt as well. Term limits will not allow congressman and senators to abide by the Constitution. After all, we have term limits on the Presidency, and the Office of the Presidency has violated the founding document countless numbers of times. Why should we expect anything to be different when a new term-limited Congress convenes?

As for the Fair Tax, it will not be any fairer than the Federal Income Tax imposed upon us by the dreaded IRS. The Fair Tax, which promises to do away with the FIT and replace it with the FT, is alleged to be a 23 percent rate on the sales of all goods in the U.S. ($23 on every $100 spent in total, even though its calculation is similar to income taxes). However, the actual rate would be 30 percent on the sales of all goods in the U.S. (meaning $30 on every $77 spent before taxes).

Plus, the bad part about this tax scheme is that it creates a new bureaucracy, which would oversee the imposition of the tax at the federal level. Proponents of the tax say that the new tax would just be done at the state level rather than at the federal level, but that's just political sophistry. Even the FT opponents know this, countering that compliance would not be carried out by the individual, and that massive tax evasion could result. While the first part of their claim would most likely happen, the last part of the opponent's argument is speculative. It implies that the current system is better than the alternative. In actuality, the new tax could bring about a new underground economy, as many other opponents observe, because intermediate goods and services are factors of production and can be exempt and are not final sales on the purchases.

Moreover, another reason to oppose the Fair Tax is the fact that the proposed legislation favors a welfare state approach. It can issue checks to the Fair Taxpayers in advance, acting as welfare handouts to them in the process. Family households under the new system would receive what would be prominently known as a "Family Consumption Allowance" -- a tax rebate (or "prebate") -- that would easily be used as welfare cash handouts to families in advance for twelve months. A new welfare state can be easily generated because of this. Is this what the conservatives have in mind when they say that they are "anti-tax"? Shouldn't they just drop the "anti-tax" moniker and just say that they are "anti-Federal Income Tax" but pro-tax on other areas, including inflation and the Fair Tax?

And with this system in place, how would it be "fair" to everyone involved? I thought conservatives were against creating welfare classes. But of course not! They're only against welfare if it doesn't serve their interests and doesn't profit from it. How "pro-American" and "pro-liberty" all of that is!

And, as for the final part of the anti-Fair Tax argument, does anyone really believe that the conservatives, including Boortz and Hannity, will really push for the elimination of the Federal Income Tax and replace it with this new tax? This legislation can easily be amended to keep the original tax and tack on the new tax to go with it. That would mean that the IRS would still be in business, and Americans would be getting their federal income tax refund checks and begin to receive their new monthly "prebate" checks as well.

It should be of no surprise that conservatives like Wurzelbacher, who is also pro-Iraq War, pro-Israeli government, and pro-Fair Tax, is also pro-welfare state. Like Hannity, he also supports the warfare state as well. That's another part of the welfare state that conservatives love so much because they benefit from it.

Isn't it time for them to stop saying that they are for liberty and are for government, conservative-style? But then again, isn't this what you would expect from the old, tired Republican siren song that continues to be played every time they lose the White House and both Houses of the Congress?

Here's the video of Wurzelbacher and Hannity at the Tea Party "anti-tax" rally in Atlanta, Georgia:



[Cross-posted at The Freeman Chronicles.]